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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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type of fear the trepidation of young

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were sure that something is lurking

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under the bed or in the closet beer sees

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even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of your cane my

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name is lon stripper join me as I

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examine unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations of the remarkable

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realities imagine this next hour as a

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voyage of discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board as we begin this adventure

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together hey folks good evening and

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welcome to another episode of arcane

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radio where we explore the unexplained

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here on the paranormal King radio

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I'm your host lawn Strickler coming to

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you with in a cannon shot of historic

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Gettysburg in the cryptid mecca of

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Pennsylvania I thank you for joining me

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now I before we get started with our

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guests I recently received a report of

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former witness who forwarded - what

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actually was forward to manual knob

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Rhett or a UFO Clearing House and he for

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it to be and where the witness states

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that a humanoid was observed ascending

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into a UFO at Chicago's O'Hare

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now this occurred on January 23rd of

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this year about 1 o'clock in the morning

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where the witness City was standing

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outside taking a smoke break and was on

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the phone with his girlfriend when he

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sold this UFO pass over him he said was

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completely silent

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extremely bright it has a passed over

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shafts of light were coming from it and

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going to the ground he said was

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egg-shaped and it was moving very fast

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and then stopped right above the old

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cemetery that sits inside the airport

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that some rest Haven Cemetery then a

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brilliant blue light came from this

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thing toward the ground it looked like

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someone was was shining a super bright

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spotlight down from the sky toward the

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ground it was then that I saw something

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rising up towards the object and it

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disappeared at about five seconds it

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looked like a person but it was standing

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too far away to get a good look at it

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like a person getting sucked up in this

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thing the the object then rotated in

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place and within three seconds

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it flew towards the north and was going

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within a second so it was witnessed seem

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to be pretty shook up according to two

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surprised to hear about a cemetery being

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in the the airport law on the airport

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grounds but it definitely is and it's

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actually right up against one of the

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cargo areas so I believe you know he

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it but I actually think he may have been

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a bit closer and from the way it sounded

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after main will actually investigate it

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I think this this was some type of

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humanoid shape not nothing human and the

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it possibly a winged humanoid be picked

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cemetery in the middle of night would be

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someone would become a but get adopted I

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information I'm gonna try to get a

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little more so we'll have to see and

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then see if this somehow connected with

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the phenomena that's been going on

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I'm welcome cryptozoologists

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investigator and author ken gerhart

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arcane radio now Ken as a widely

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research research organizations now he

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evidence of mysterious animals and

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legendary beasts in addition to

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co-hosting his History Channel TV series

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missing and Alaska ken appeared in three

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episodes of television series Monster

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quest and has featured in History

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Channel special the real Wolfman as well

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as other series including ancient aliens

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appearances on numerous news broadcast

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and radio programs and he has authored

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five well-received books including his

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recent title the essential guide to

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Bigfoot and by the way it's an excellent

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book ken has traveled to 20 22 different

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countries on six continents and has

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visited virtually all the United States

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an avid adventure he has can't along the

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Picchu to Stonehenge so Ken thanks for

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joining me

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good evening as always it's a pleasure

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and an honor to be with you my friend

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I'm doing pretty good I see you've been

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keeping busy which is which is good I

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guess keeping busy is good there's a

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good busy yeah there sure is so as you

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heard we've been keeping busy yeah that

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uh listening intently to that account

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read any of the old there's a to old but

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you know that the 1970s UFO books and

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they had all those weird encounters all

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over the place with you know all types

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of humanoid beings different sizes and

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shapes and you know the egg-shaped

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full circle and a lot of that stuff is

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like we're hearing about it as much yeah

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and you mentioned some of that in the

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book with the Bigfoot UFO connection in

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70s and 73 in particular that Stan

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Gordon had investigated during that time

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and actually it's still going on it's

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weird pretty weird and wacky stuff some

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from art South America I think it was

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Argentina where the hairy Dwarfs you

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come out and they were these little

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hairy superhuman strengths and they

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would throw people off remember reading

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any of those accounts but you know those

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were some pretty pretty interesting ones

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well I tell you I read the book it's

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very good very comprehensive enjoyable I

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recommend it to any Bigfoot enthusiast

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experienced not experienced it does

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really does really explain the phenomena

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it's a great primer and you should be

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very proud of it thank you it definitely

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means a lot coming from you a fellow

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researcher author and respected

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colleague yeah I you know I I've been

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investigating Bigfoot for decades but I

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never occurred to me that I should write

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a book because there I felt like there

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a lot of good books out you know for

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many years that were kind of to go to

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resources but you know things have

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changed now it's kind of the the

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proliferation of the internet and so you

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filter through the information that's

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what you know people all have their own

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easy to kind of be led astray but I just

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different researchers and kind of put

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remarkable as Bigfoot yeah you know we

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supernatural theories that may be

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but you're right we can't get away from

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the actual early evidence and actual

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stories and you know what there have

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been recorded before that and kind of

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pretty interesting to me but you know I

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think there might you know there might

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be supernatural type phenomenon going on

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around the world sure but the thing that

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different physical you know or at least

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presumptively physical aspects to it it

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leaves footprints that are consistent

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that have been found all over the place

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mythology that are very consistent and

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history where you have species you know

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earlier or later so I mean you know it's

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just there's more substantial evidence

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creature a basically an undiscovered

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animal or hominin you know something

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and still around in remote areas and

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involving bigfoot-type creatures but I

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at the vast majority of Bigfoot

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sightings which number in you know six

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thousand some people say more you know

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a pond or you know walking through the

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woods you rarely hear about the the

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weird lights and UFOs now not to

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discount Stan's research or anyone else

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more of a supernatural or metaphysical

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phenomenon that looks like Bigfoot the

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same perhaps the same mechanism that

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man and maybe sometimes it materializes

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have report last year of a of a

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sasquatch sized being looked like a

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sasquatch they here in the old nine

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yards about eight foot and height two

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had wings wow that yeah and the one we

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had the first witness come forward we

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had two other ones after that and in

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fact one of the witnesses filed a police

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report at the time and we did get the

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Freedom of Information Act request and

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got the police report so he he

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or something but yeah I mean it wasn't

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what people had been seeing with the the

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emaciated black humanoid with with bat

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wings this thing was very different so I

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don't know I mean I hate that one stands

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out and kind of makes me think that you

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know maybe these things are connected

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yeah certainly could be I mean we were

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talking before the show I haven't done a

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ton of dog man research or investigation

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but of course I've done the Mothman and

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the flying humanoids but from one

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everything I've heard and seen there's

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so many parallels between those two

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creatures yeah you know the the kind of

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the anthropomorphic nature where you're

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blending human features with it with

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different types of animals the bats or

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dogs or whatever and also the behavior

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you know the way that they just freakin

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terrify people they're very hyper

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aggressive they chase cars they chase

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people they clawed things bang on walls

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you know most animals or even the

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animals that we perceive to be very

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scary like bears and lions are actually

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free reticent and docile and afraid of

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humans and it's very rare that's all you

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know maybe once in a while but they

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don't go out of their way to antagonize

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and chase humans they just defend their

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territory so you know and then there's

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you know the UFO connections and glowing

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lights and the strangeness and some

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mists and you know it's just it seems

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like those types of things might all be

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connected somehow yeah and you know we

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get some of the strangest stuff

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sometimes and we're left with trying to

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figure it out and try to explain to

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people what people are seeing you know

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the one thing I didn't really like about

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the book was that you you have

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interjected a lot of your opinion in it

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which was I did like and in fact the one

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section that that I noticed right off

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was the discussion you had about the

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population of a let's say well let's

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just save the flesh and blood

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Bigfoot and uh why wouldn't you put your

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idea over the actual population of

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Bigfoot or a related species well you

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know you always have to kind of start

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these discussions by admitting that it's

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really pure speculation because there's

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so much we don't know you know we only

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know a fraction of what we think we know

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but you know I've worked for years now

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with the San Antonio Zoo I'm a volunteer

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educator there and our zoo is

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particularly active in conservation and

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breeding of endangered species and

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things like that and so I've gotten a

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good appreciation for the viability of

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different species and what it takes for

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a species to stick around so Bigfoot's

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been here for thousands or millions of

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years and it's if it's still around

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there has to be a viable breeding

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population just like any other animals

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so what would that take so in the book I

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discussed the the first best guess was

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done by answer physical anthropologist

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dr. Grover Krantz at Washington State he

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was interested in a Bigfoot phenomenon

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for years and he guessed 4000 he said I

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think they're about 2,000 Bigfoot's in

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Canada and Alaska and then there's

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another 2000 south of Canada and other

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parts of North America and his reasoning

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was pretty sound he said if there's more

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than 4,000 I think if he's seen more

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often if they're less than that they

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wouldn't be able to carry on with the

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species because they're spread out so

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far and then about a year ago I was

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having a discussion with dr. Jeff

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Meldrum who's another physical

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anthropologist protege of Grover Krantz

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and we kind of came up with an equation

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to kind of and this was based on his

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experience of finding big footprints

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that he thought belonged to the same

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individual that were spread out like 60

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miles apart different times so he has a

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theory that Bigfoot has a big wide

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roaming range of at least a thousand

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square miles so anyways we went into

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this whole equation thing and I

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extrapolated his number by the size of

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all the world Earnest areas in North

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America and came up with about 4,000 as

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well yeah I mean it's just a guess but I

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would say if you know a few thousand I

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if you get below that number considering

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their sightings from Alaska to Florida

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to California to you know Maine I mean

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you wouldn't have I don't know you if

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you had less than that they just

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wouldn't be able to breed and they

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wouldn't be genetically viable basically

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so right well you know most of the

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Bigfoot sightings are Sasquatch

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sightings come from North America and of

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course there's a lot of sightings in in

401
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other areas but it just it does seem to

402
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be more in the United States in Canada

403
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now I don't know if I speak just because

404
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of one thews es in in the United States

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and Canada or what what that is what you

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what's your reasoning for that well you

407
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know if you look at speciation you know

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I think Bigfoot is probably has a

409
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similar is similar in many ways to other

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North American fauna such as large fauna

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such as bears elk wolves mountain lions

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and a lot of those species came over

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from Asia and in fact a lot of the

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species are in Asia and North America

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both and lo and behold in Asia you have

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of course you know the Yeti the Yaron of

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China the AH masti of Russia and

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Mongolia so there are Bigfoots like

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creatures that are other than the in

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North America I think you have the most

421
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sightings by far in Asia mm-hm so that

422
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makes sense to me that we're talking

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about an animal that basically was

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prevalent during the Pleistocene the Ice

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Age just as wolves and bears and elk and

426
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other animals were and just like those

427
00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:43,310
other animals probably migrated from

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Asia into North America across the land

429
00:19:50,860 --> 00:19:49,550
bridge that existed at that time and so

430
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:50,870
that's why you have a lot of reports

431
00:19:55,810 --> 00:19:53,930
from both and it's probably an animal

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00:19:57,910 --> 00:19:55,820
that it's a-you know who knows but it

433
00:20:00,460 --> 00:19:57,920
seems like it's adapted more towards

434
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,470
elevation because you have so many

435
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:02,240
connections with Bigfoot and the Yeti

436
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:05,090
and other creatures like that are

437
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:06,730
usually reported from mouth

438
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:09,600
so it seems like they like elevation

439
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:12,250
maybe they like the pine forests maybe

440
00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:16,210
they like say the solitude because

441
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:20,110
humans don't go there as much but but

442
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:22,090
you're right and and and within North

443
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:23,890
America most of the sightings are on the

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west coast right you have a lot of

445
00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:27,160
writings from Washington California

446
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:30,940
Oregon British Columbia and Alaska and

447
00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:32,890
then you have pockets across the rest of

448
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:34,270
the US there seems to be a pretty big

449
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:36,570
pocket area that encompasses like

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00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:39,730
southern Ohio western Pennsylvania and

451
00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:42,010
Northern Kentucky even though there are

452
00:20:45,570 --> 00:20:43,870
reports all over spread out from there

453
00:20:48,299 --> 00:20:45,580
but those are concentrations and then

454
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:48,309
Florida with the skunk ape and then here

455
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:50,770
where we have the Four Corners area of

456
00:20:55,530 --> 00:20:53,130
Texas Louisiana Arkansas Oklahoma

457
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:55,540
there's a lot of activity so there's

458
00:20:58,890 --> 00:20:57,610
lambie they seem to be sightings

459
00:21:03,060 --> 00:20:58,900
everywhere but there are certainly areas

460
00:21:04,860 --> 00:21:03,070
that seem more active mm-hmm yeah you do

461
00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:04,870
you have a chapter in the book about a

462
00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:08,020
little little feed Littlefoot and it's

463
00:21:13,409 --> 00:21:11,230
very interesting because when you get

464
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outside of the United States and Canada

465
00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:16,780
outside of North America it seems to be

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an entirely different with these smaller

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00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:24,100
type beings especially in the the South

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00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:28,690
Pacific and southern Asia yeah that's

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true and you know the most famous of the

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little foot creatures is the Arang pen

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deck of Sumatra many people have heard

472
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of it reg ped deck means short man and

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it's considered to be different from the

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orangutan which is also from from that

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00:21:50,970 --> 00:21:49,240
area that Island but there's there are a

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lot of reports of you know the EBU gogo

477
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and in Africa in Equatorial Africa you

478
00:21:59,730 --> 00:21:56,620
have little foot creatures like the

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Adaro a and Saheed a I've been to

480
00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:01,480
Central America where I've investigated

481
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a little foot known as the Duende so

482
00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:07,240
they always seem to be along in warmer

483
00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:09,910
climates or jungle habitats for the most

484
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part that's not and that just so happens

485
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to align with something known as

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Bergman's rule which in the animal

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kingdom means that animals that have

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more

489
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can often be found in colder climates

490
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absolutely as you go farther north the

491
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Bears get bigger the Wolves cave

492
00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:30,460
everything so everything gets bigger get

493
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its gotten you know more more mass and

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warrants and it can tolerate those and

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then things tend to shrink down when you

496
00:22:42,299 --> 00:22:40,120
go down to well this look at mountain

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00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:42,309
lions you got mountain lions Puma

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00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:46,240
concolor ranging from Alaska to Central

499
00:22:50,490 --> 00:22:48,220
and South America but they're smaller

500
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:50,500
mountain lions there where it's hotter

501
00:22:54,150 --> 00:22:52,570
in the Central and South America and

502
00:22:59,820 --> 00:22:54,160
they get bigger as you get up into

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00:23:04,820 --> 00:22:59,830
Colorado and up north you know so yeah

504
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:04,830
and there's also a a smaller species

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00:23:15,870 --> 00:23:14,400
yeah I mean that's you know something

506
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:15,880
that really got and got me interested in

507
00:23:21,409 --> 00:23:17,710
the subject mm-hmm

508
00:23:23,549 --> 00:23:21,419
when I was up in Alaska in 2015

509
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,559
filming that the series missing in

510
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:25,360
Alaska we did an episode on the little

511
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people and by little people what they

512
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natives described are little hairy

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people that live in the wilderness and

514
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:33,580
that are different from Bigfoot because

515
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:36,850
they're tiny and they have a slightly

516
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:41,830
more supernatural characteristics a you

517
00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:43,570
know there's they're just like little

518
00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:45,400
people legends all over the world where

519
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:47,830
you have gnomes and fairies and all

520
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:49,510
these magical beings they're considered

521
00:23:55,169 --> 00:23:53,049
to be a little bit more spectral but

522
00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:55,179
people in Alaska are very terrified of

523
00:23:58,740 --> 00:23:56,950
these little hairy covered man-like

524
00:24:03,110 --> 00:23:58,750
creatures and they call them a number of

525
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:03,120
names at Duke ins arch and rock Jinxy ox

526
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:06,730
so on and so forth and I've also spoken

527
00:24:15,390 --> 00:24:11,110
to some Native American people in in the

528
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:15,400
Dakotas and other parts of North America

529
00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:17,970
that have also claimed to have similar

530
00:24:24,060 --> 00:24:20,830
creatures little hair covered dwarf

531
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:24,070
creatures so you know it's all I read a

532
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:27,040
chapter in the book about Littlefoot but

533
00:24:32,730 --> 00:24:29,320
perhaps we could be dealing with a proto

534
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:32,740
pygmy or a pygmy sized relict hominin

535
00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:34,210
and

536
00:24:38,879 --> 00:24:36,549
similar to Bigfoot but you know more

537
00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:38,889
along the lines of a Homo habilis or

538
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:40,870
something like that but I'm certainly

539
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:42,370
not the first person to propose this

540
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:44,860
stuff if you go back even to Anderson

541
00:24:51,389 --> 00:24:47,250
I haven't Sanderson back in you know

542
00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:51,399
1960s I was writing about the you know a

543
00:24:57,210 --> 00:24:52,630
lot of these little thing called the

544
00:25:00,330 --> 00:24:57,220
proto pygmies in the world yeah I mean

545
00:25:05,549 --> 00:25:00,340
yeah I have heard of these these small

546
00:25:10,409 --> 00:25:05,559
beings and like northern Minnesota into

547
00:25:19,460 --> 00:25:10,419
into Manitoba and Alberta and the ajeeb

548
00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:23,340
yeah the I've taken a few reports on

549
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:26,230
that as well over the years it does seem

550
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:28,210
to be I mean you're right these things

551
00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:31,240
are tiny I mean they are small and the

552
00:25:39,749 --> 00:25:36,190
powerful yeah very strong but small I

553
00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:39,759
think the when you talked about the

554
00:25:45,749 --> 00:25:41,470
native peoples of the First Nations

555
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:45,759
people they tend to believe up there

556
00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:49,929
that these beings kidnap children huh

557
00:25:56,879 --> 00:25:53,080
yep it's very interesting and I think

558
00:25:59,369 --> 00:25:56,889
when you did missing in Alaska them you

559
00:26:02,490 --> 00:25:59,379
talked about it was not only that went

560
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:02,500
missing yeah yeah vanished and it was it

561
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:05,919
was in the news and stuff so yeah and

562
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:08,529
you know that again when I was down in

563
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:12,070
Belize in 2004 2006 searching for the

564
00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:13,720
Duende which is a little foot creature

565
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:15,340
that's reported down from the jungles

566
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,129
there I spoke to a gentleman a Mayan

567
00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:20,320
gentleman who told me that his young

568
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:22,360
sister had been kidnapped by a Duende

569
00:26:28,889 --> 00:26:26,440
and what's weird as he said that before

570
00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:28,899
she was she vanished that she could see

571
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:31,750
this little man-like creature kind of at

572
00:26:34,499 --> 00:26:33,129
the edge of the jungle and she was

573
00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:34,509
pointing at it but the other people

574
00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:36,940
couldn't really see it and then she

575
00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:39,700
vanished and then he said they found her

576
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:41,830
I guess they mounted a search for her

577
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:44,169
and found her sleeping in the in the

578
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:46,930
jungle next to a strange piece of

579
00:26:53,370 --> 00:26:50,170
fabric and according to this gentleman

580
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:53,380
his name was Inori oh my he said that

581
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:55,510
they burned the the piece of fabric

582
00:26:58,980 --> 00:26:57,250
because they thought it was you know of

583
00:27:00,990 --> 00:26:58,990
the devil you know something evil or

584
00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:01,000
demonic or possessed because of this

585
00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:05,230
little creature Duende creature and that

586
00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:09,280
after that happened his infant son or if

587
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:12,940
sorry infant brother passed away no okay

588
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:14,530
so there was there was all this really

589
00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:18,910
dark kind of connotation involving the

590
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:20,560
Duende down there but they did also

591
00:27:23,370 --> 00:27:22,230
describe it as kind of like a little

592
00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:23,380
hairy

593
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:27,340
you know man like a better words you

594
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:30,700
know kind of an ancient looking face and

595
00:27:37,050 --> 00:27:33,450
covered in hair and walks upright and

596
00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:37,060
they live supposedly live in the Maya

597
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:39,540
mountains and some of the areas up there

598
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:43,750
mmm interesting um there was another

599
00:27:46,350 --> 00:27:45,730
part of the book I found interesting as

600
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:46,360
well

601
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:50,250
among many interesting things was

602
00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:52,630
talking about the possibility that

603
00:27:59,370 --> 00:27:55,540
Sasquatch hibernates during the winter

604
00:28:00,720 --> 00:27:59,380
what are your thoughts on that well you

605
00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:00,730
know that's those theories have been out

606
00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:02,860
there for a long time too and I think

607
00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:06,550
some of that has to do with you know

608
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:09,220
there are the first person that really

609
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:10,930
chronicled and collected Bigfoot reports

610
00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:12,490
and sightings and put them into a

611
00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:15,580
massive database was John Green who is a

612
00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:18,070
journalist and an author and he he

613
00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:19,660
started collecting sightings or

614
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:22,380
interviewing people back in the 50s and

615
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:24,910
through the years he amassed thousands

616
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:27,130
of sightings and he he started putting

617
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,410
them into a computer in the 1970s and he

618
00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:31,120
looked for patterns and things for years

619
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:32,680
because he had so many reports he was

620
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:33,640
trying to see if there were different

621
00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:35,770
patterns and things but what he noticed

622
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:38,440
was that there were significantly best

623
00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:40,750
sightings in the winter now there's an

624
00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:42,550
obvious reason for that which is people

625
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:44,680
tend to be less outdoors in the winter

626
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:47,050
because especially in some of these cold

627
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:51,550
you know mountainous areas um but you

628
00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:54,400
know there there's a biological way you

629
00:28:59,760 --> 00:28:56,820
can look at it too which is Bigfoot is

630
00:29:00,960 --> 00:28:59,770
very similar to a bear in terms of its

631
00:29:05,159 --> 00:29:00,970
size

632
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:05,169
an omnivore needs a lot of different

633
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:07,090
things but during the winter food is

634
00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:09,370
scarce for all animals and so for

635
00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:12,190
example bears enter a state of torpor

636
00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:15,400
not true hibernation but they crawl into

637
00:29:19,049 --> 00:29:16,840
a hole and slow down their metabolism

638
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:19,059
and sleep and they're that way they're

639
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,330
not burning as much energy other animals

640
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:23,919
large animals are less active in the

641
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:25,570
winter for this for similar reasons

642
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:27,400
there's less food available less energy

643
00:29:32,490 --> 00:29:30,010
so you know it's a fair assumption that

644
00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:32,500
Bigfoot might follow a similar pattern

645
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:34,120
that maybe because it's such a large

646
00:29:38,460 --> 00:29:36,730
animal and you know estimated weights

647
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:38,470
range from five hundred to a thousand

648
00:29:42,810 --> 00:29:41,049
pounds they're huge animals that need a

649
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:42,820
lot of food and so maybe during the

650
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:47,110
winter they to some extent they're you

651
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:49,030
know I would say hibernate but they go

652
00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:52,980
into kind of a state of low activity or

653
00:29:58,380 --> 00:29:55,750
possibly they migrate some of them might

654
00:30:03,779 --> 00:29:58,390
migrate to warmer climates yeah that's

655
00:30:06,090 --> 00:30:03,789
another thing is you know we've you know

656
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:06,100
we have heard a lot of weird things as

657
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:09,070
far as migration in this part of the

658
00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:12,220
country especially between Pennsylvania

659
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:15,220
Maryland and West Virginia there there

660
00:30:22,350 --> 00:30:18,159
have been theories about the possibility

661
00:30:25,049 --> 00:30:22,360
that they do move along migration routes

662
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:25,059
I don't know if it would be a seasonal

663
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:28,630
thing or if it just because of scarcity

664
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:32,190
of food or drought or whatever but it

665
00:30:41,010 --> 00:30:36,250
you know it does seem that some of these

666
00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:41,020
these Bigfoot beings do tend to move

667
00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:44,400
about a bit more than what we thought

668
00:30:49,710 --> 00:30:47,640
yeah and that could be an adaptation

669
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:49,720
absolutely could be this something we

670
00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:53,350
talked about in the book is that you

671
00:30:57,779 --> 00:30:55,870
know Bigfoot I think the you know the

672
00:31:00,060 --> 00:30:57,789
only logical way to explain that Bigfoot

673
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,070
hasn't been found by humans yet or

674
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:01,840
hasn't been discovered is that they are

675
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:05,049
essentially built to avoid to contact

676
00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:07,090
with us in other words they've adapted

677
00:31:11,460 --> 00:31:09,460
behavior patterns specifically to avoid

678
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:11,470
humans because they they are smart

679
00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:13,090
enough to recognize that we are their

680
00:31:19,259 --> 00:31:14,440
biggest threat right

681
00:31:22,649 --> 00:31:19,269
that true for most animals so in that

682
00:31:24,419 --> 00:31:22,659
essence perhaps they are more nomadic

683
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:24,429
well we know they live in very remote

684
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:26,529
areas where humans typically don't go I

685
00:31:31,529 --> 00:31:29,320
mean that's kind of common knowledge

686
00:31:33,539 --> 00:31:31,539
they're usually reported in remote areas

687
00:31:35,399 --> 00:31:33,549
so the other theory is that perhaps

688
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:35,409
they're nomadic they move around a lot

689
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:37,809
in addition to living in remote areas

690
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:39,610
they move from one remote area to

691
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:40,990
another remote area which makes them

692
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:43,570
harder to find and perhaps they're also

693
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:46,720
nocturnal or mostly active at night and

694
00:31:51,659 --> 00:31:49,690
that is borne out by the fact that you

695
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,669
have less sightings that are I'm sorry

696
00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:53,440
more sightings at night or at least as

697
00:31:59,100 --> 00:31:54,879
many sightings at night as during the

698
00:32:00,960 --> 00:31:59,110
day so I mean it's possible that these

699
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:00,970
things are nomadic we don't know I mean

700
00:32:04,649 --> 00:32:02,710
obviously nobody's ever figured out a

701
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:04,659
migration pattern like I said John Green

702
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:08,110
look for those kinds of things but I was

703
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:10,360
recently speaking to a researcher out in

704
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:15,970
Oregon an investigator and he's been

705
00:32:19,499 --> 00:32:17,919
working a certain area at a certain time

706
00:32:22,580 --> 00:32:19,509
of year where there are sightings I

707
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:22,590
forget like the month of December and I

708
00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:25,210
spoke to another investigator that had

709
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:29,080
been collecting sightings from about 50

710
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:31,470
miles west of that first location and

711
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,210
most of her sightings were coming up in

712
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:37,120
August and September so we you know we

713
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:38,200
thought it was interesting well these

714
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:40,240
areas aren't that far apart there it's

715
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:41,769
in the mountains they're about 50 or 60

716
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:45,730
miles apart the the sightings that were

717
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:49,120
in the warmer months seemed to be at a

718
00:32:55,259 --> 00:32:52,720
higher elevation and then 60 miles away

719
00:32:56,999 --> 00:32:55,269
where the elevation reduced their size

720
00:32:58,379 --> 00:32:57,009
so I don't know it was it seemed almost

721
00:33:00,600 --> 00:32:58,389
it was an inference but it seemed like

722
00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:00,610
okay maybe this is almost like a

723
00:33:04,259 --> 00:33:02,620
sensible migration pattern if these

724
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:04,269
things are here that they're moving here

725
00:33:09,570 --> 00:33:06,129
in these months and here in these months

726
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:09,580
and basically following the food yeah I

727
00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:13,330
mean it is interesting I mean we do tend

728
00:33:18,899 --> 00:33:16,600
to I mean it does seem stuff seems to a

729
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:18,909
few of us that they do move between

730
00:33:22,350 --> 00:33:20,289
these areas

731
00:33:26,009 --> 00:33:22,360
traveling along mountain ridges or

732
00:33:28,409 --> 00:33:26,019
mountain ranges and I mean here so I

733
00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:28,419
don't know if that's that's being seen

734
00:33:33,299 --> 00:33:30,220
in other places but that dad is

735
00:33:34,889 --> 00:33:33,309
interesting you know sure I'm sure to

736
00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:34,899
enough investigators around they would

737
00:33:43,409 --> 00:33:38,470
confirm that yeah now there was a recent

738
00:33:47,639 --> 00:33:43,419
show on on TV expedition Bigfoot and it

739
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:47,649
kind of touched on a few few different

740
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:50,049
things so many of us have been involved

741
00:33:54,529 --> 00:33:53,049
with this are very familiar with in

742
00:33:58,649 --> 00:33:54,539
particular infrasound

743
00:34:02,369 --> 00:33:58,659
yeah and you mentioned some of it in a

744
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:02,379
book what's your take on infrasound do

745
00:34:11,629 --> 00:34:05,440
you believe that Bigfoot is has the

746
00:34:15,629 --> 00:34:11,639
ability to use this to either stun

747
00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:15,639
humans or other animals or what's your

748
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:18,849
take on that well it's a again it's a

749
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:21,280
theory that's been discussed by a lot of

750
00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:24,280
researchers for years and I think it's

751
00:34:27,809 --> 00:34:26,020
based on a couple of things one is the

752
00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:27,819
premise that and I'm sure your listeners

753
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:29,230
are familiar with infrasound but

754
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:31,359
essentially we're talking about super

755
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:34,450
low sound waves that are below you know

756
00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:38,049
20 Hertz so really below the human range

757
00:34:42,569 --> 00:34:39,879
of hearing so they're felt more than

758
00:34:45,419 --> 00:34:42,579
they're heard but there are a number of

759
00:34:47,490 --> 00:34:45,429
large animals that do create infrasound

760
00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:47,500
including whales and elephants and

761
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:50,500
hippos and you know even some predators

762
00:34:54,899 --> 00:34:52,210
like lions and tigers will use it to

763
00:34:58,049 --> 00:34:54,909
kind of stun their prey which are

764
00:34:59,880 --> 00:34:58,059
usually smaller animals you know so you

765
00:35:02,250 --> 00:34:59,890
know it makes sense from a from an

766
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,260
ecological point of view that if again

767
00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:04,720
if Bigfoot is an 800 1200 pound animal

768
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:07,540
that maybe it can produce those types of

769
00:35:12,359 --> 00:35:10,510
sounds and the other thing is that you

770
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:12,369
know you you speak to enough

771
00:35:16,829 --> 00:35:14,049
investigators to the years and you hear

772
00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:16,839
these accounts of people that were in an

773
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:18,520
area where they thought Bigfoot was

774
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:20,710
close by and suddenly they became sick

775
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:24,220
or disoriented or they just didn't feel

776
00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:26,890
right you know so you hear a lot of

777
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:30,700
those accounts and you know that that's

778
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:32,849
often been kind of associated by

779
00:35:37,620 --> 00:35:34,930
inference that okay there's a Bigfoot

780
00:35:40,319 --> 00:35:37,630
closeby and this person is suddenly you

781
00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:40,329
know having this weird episode and then

782
00:35:43,339 --> 00:35:41,380
the last thing I think which is

783
00:35:46,109 --> 00:35:43,349
interesting is

784
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:46,119
many people before they have a Bigfoot

785
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:47,530
sighting if they're out in the woods

786
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:49,839
they'll describe this situation where

787
00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:52,869
the woods get eerily silent now you're

788
00:35:56,130 --> 00:35:54,579
out in the woods you typically in most

789
00:35:59,010 --> 00:35:56,140
woods if the weather's good you're going

790
00:36:00,779 --> 00:35:59,020
to hear insects and amphibians and birds

791
00:36:03,809 --> 00:36:00,789
and all these things kind of chirping

792
00:36:05,099 --> 00:36:03,819
and vocalizing and you know you hear

793
00:36:06,180 --> 00:36:05,109
that over and over again and different

794
00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:06,190
Bigfoot accounts where people are out

795
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:07,780
the woods and suddenly it's like there's

796
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:12,490
nothing it's just a vacuum and so maybe

797
00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:14,530
if there you know you would assume that

798
00:36:20,299 --> 00:36:16,990
maybe many of those animals would would

799
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:20,309
have the ability to sense infrasound

800
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,630
frequencies and so that you know maybe

801
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,160
if there was a Bigfoot emitting those

802
00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:26,079
sounds that that was creating that so

803
00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:28,780
you know again it's another line of

804
00:36:33,690 --> 00:36:30,849
speculation but it's something that's

805
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:33,700
been discussed seriously and you know

806
00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:35,710
it's certainly something that should be

807
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:38,109
explored it's worth looking into yeah it

808
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:40,450
doesn't make sense because I have heard

809
00:36:48,059 --> 00:36:44,230
over the years about big cats being able

810
00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:48,069
to you know when they're in an area

811
00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:50,380
everything starts to get quiet and of

812
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:54,460
course many of these larger cats can use

813
00:37:01,289 --> 00:36:56,710
them for sound and that very well may be

814
00:37:04,589 --> 00:37:01,299
the reason why it happens yeah it is

815
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:04,599
interesting that how that phenomena

816
00:37:12,359 --> 00:37:08,200
happens I just wondered there's any way

817
00:37:17,730 --> 00:37:12,369
of ever being able to measure that in

818
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:17,740
the field huh well yeah I think so

819
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,690
there are you would need the first thing

820
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:21,520
you would need is a someone that used to

821
00:37:26,549 --> 00:37:23,950
recording many years ago as a microphone

822
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:26,559
that was capable of picking up those

823
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:28,150
frequencies because even most of the

824
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:31,180
really large diaphragm microphones that

825
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:35,200
are used in recording studios they start

826
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:37,180
rolling off the frequency start the

827
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:39,430
scent of shelfing it like 60 50 Hertz

828
00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:41,380
and then going downhill from there so by

829
00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:43,000
the time you get down to 20 Hertz

830
00:37:47,250 --> 00:37:44,920
you know this there's not a lot of

831
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:47,260
headroom there yeah I'm sure there are

832
00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:49,210
probably specialty microphones for

833
00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:50,920
example that ones that are used for bass

834
00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:52,990
drums and different things that have a

835
00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:55,540
lower frequency spec

836
00:37:59,340 --> 00:37:57,910
so if you had a mic he could pick up

837
00:38:01,110 --> 00:37:59,350
some of those low frequencies in a

838
00:38:03,390 --> 00:38:01,120
digital recorder that had the full range

839
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:03,400
of and I think most digital recorders go

840
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:05,980
at least 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz but he

841
00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:07,690
could find an especially he probably

842
00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:09,700
specialized gear long but it seems in

843
00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:11,830
theory it could be done yeah a little

844
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:18,270
pricey yeah it's not a cheap endeavor

845
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:20,710
it's not a cheap endeavor for the most

846
00:38:24,930 --> 00:38:23,650
part it could be done I'm sure you know

847
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:24,940
it come to think of it some of the

848
00:38:28,850 --> 00:38:26,770
zoologist that study some of these large

849
00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:28,860
animals you know that maybe they have

850
00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:31,060
some of that technology available

851
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:34,300
already yeah you took you do talk a lot

852
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:38,890
about the behavior of Bigfoot and some

853
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:42,580
of the things that people notice just

854
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:45,810
like stone-throwing and in particular

855
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:49,600
these stick figures are and their nest

856
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:51,490
that they build the stick structures

857
00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:52,450
there as well

858
00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:54,040
you know and there seems to be a lot

859
00:38:59,250 --> 00:38:56,350
more emphasis on these large stick

860
00:39:01,590 --> 00:38:59,260
structures in recent years that's yeah

861
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:01,600
you know it just seems to be that more

862
00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:03,790
people are paying attention to it and

863
00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:07,500
noticing it as opposed to years previous

864
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:10,600
you know I don't know if there's a

865
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:12,460
reason for that maybe they're just more

866
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:14,260
people out of looking for them I guess

867
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:16,690
but you know some of the structures I

868
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:20,410
think have you found that in in

869
00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:23,050
different areas of the country that the

870
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:27,460
structures do tend to be different I

871
00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:30,340
haven't really noticed a big difference

872
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:31,060
but I haven't

873
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:33,310
honestly spent as much time analyzing

874
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:36,490
that sort of the characteristics of

875
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:38,890
these different structures but having

876
00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:40,590
spent a lot of time in the woods and

877
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,840
kind of growing up in the woods every

878
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:44,800
once in a while you'll come across

879
00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:47,290
something anomalous in terms of you know

880
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:50,920
trees that are you know leaning against

881
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:53,310
each other or you know something weird

882
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,690
but it does seem like if you go into

883
00:40:01,080 --> 00:39:58,000
certain areas where there's a lot of

884
00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:01,090
Bigfoot reported Bigfoot activity you

885
00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:04,300
sometimes find more dramatically weird

886
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:06,700
and bigger and more complex structures

887
00:40:11,530 --> 00:40:09,050
that you and a more and a higher

888
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:11,540
frequency so I remember for example when

889
00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:13,850
I was in Florida's green swamp years ago

890
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:17,150
doing a investigation I found a lot in

891
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:18,320
this one area where this third

892
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:19,850
supposedly been a lot of skunk ape

893
00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:21,290
sightings we've found a lot of these

894
00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:24,470
really weird things where trees had been

895
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:27,020
pushed into the forks of other trees and

896
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:29,450
you know it didn't look natural it

897
00:40:34,210 --> 00:40:31,640
definitely looked like a strategic the

898
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:34,220
other thing was going on there and I've

899
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:36,350
also seen that in Louisiana I've seen it

900
00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:40,370
in other states as well so I don't know

901
00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:43,430
if anyone's ever taken the time to sort

902
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:45,220
of compare the data on that and

903
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:48,070
partially because it's one of the more

904
00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:50,450
incidental forms of evidence with regard

905
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,030
to Bigfoot because no one's really ever

906
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:55,280
reported to my knowledge of Bigfoot

907
00:41:00,130 --> 00:40:57,410
making one of these things no Brian he's

908
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:00,140
actually being put together so it's just

909
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:01,490
one of those things we find in those

910
00:41:07,450 --> 00:41:05,690
areas but you know the ones I found in

911
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:07,460
Florida I've I talked about this in the

912
00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:09,260
book to me seem kind of like they were

913
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:11,080
just pointing in a certain direction

914
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:13,640
when I followed that direction I ended

915
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:15,710
up finding a water hole that was kind of

916
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:19,070
obscured by brush and so it seemed like

917
00:41:23,470 --> 00:41:21,770
oh hey I mean it was just my impression

918
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:23,480
it was like wow it seemed like these

919
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,670
things these weird structures were all

920
00:41:30,190 --> 00:41:28,640
pointing me towards this water hole that

921
00:41:33,730 --> 00:41:30,200
I had to walk a couple hundred yards to

922
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:33,740
find but but I've seen some pretty wild

923
00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:37,760
ones I found a nest early on what I

924
00:41:44,350 --> 00:41:40,340
believe to be a nest back in 2002 this

925
00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:44,360
was in Big Thicket here in East East

926
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:46,790
Texas well known for Bigfoot activity

927
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:49,310
and I was at a place called Turkey Creek

928
00:41:54,340 --> 00:41:50,390
where there had been a lot of sightings

929
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,350
recently and I found this I say I I was

930
00:41:59,920 --> 00:41:56,240
with a group we found this kind of it

931
00:42:01,210 --> 00:41:59,930
looked like a kind of a hut or a shaped

932
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:01,220
like an igloo really but it was

933
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:03,490
completely made out of these saplings

934
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:06,230
baby trees that had been bowed over and

935
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:08,090
kind of woven together to create like a

936
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:10,670
dome mmm there was like vegetation

937
00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:12,710
around the outside and I mean looking

938
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:14,630
inside I know sometimes hunters will

939
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:16,490
build blinds and things up a while but

940
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:18,560
this just seemed kind of nasty for

941
00:42:21,730 --> 00:42:20,150
someone that you know

942
00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:21,740
especially in the Big Thicket you have a

943
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:24,230
lot of water moccasins and cotton mouth

944
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,630
or copperheads and different things

945
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:28,640
crawling around it it wasn't you know it

946
00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:30,079
was like wow this is not something a

947
00:42:35,260 --> 00:42:31,670
person would really get into but it

948
00:42:36,910 --> 00:42:35,270
seemed you had a doorway and so that you

949
00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:36,920
know I found that one one time and I

950
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,420
found a couple others similar ones

951
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:40,160
through the years that kind of seemed

952
00:42:46,299 --> 00:42:44,329
like they followed a similar pattern and

953
00:42:47,890 --> 00:42:46,309
I know similar I've seen pictures of

954
00:42:50,529 --> 00:42:47,900
similar nests or

955
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:50,539
shelters as I called it in from other

956
00:42:58,420 --> 00:42:54,710
states like Oregon Georgia Colorado and

957
00:43:00,599 --> 00:42:58,430
stuff so again knowing no accounts of

958
00:43:03,069 --> 00:43:00,609
Bigfoot building anything like that but

959
00:43:04,809 --> 00:43:03,079
you could speculate and say you're in an

960
00:43:07,059 --> 00:43:04,819
area with a lot of Bigfoot activity a

961
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:07,069
lot of sightings you find something that

962
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:10,130
seems like a little crude shelter but

963
00:43:18,910 --> 00:43:12,200
it's not man-made in your opinion you

964
00:43:21,010 --> 00:43:18,920
know well you know the weirdest thing I

965
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,020
ever saw no this is a while back but

966
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:24,319
this this was in the area where I had my

967
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:27,710
actual encounter maybe I about four or

968
00:43:34,809 --> 00:43:31,130
five miles downstream from it but we

969
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:34,819
found a and what we believe may have

970
00:43:43,930 --> 00:43:38,240
been some type of nest or whatever but

971
00:43:45,849 --> 00:43:43,940
it was a structure that was made of tree

972
00:43:48,609 --> 00:43:45,859
stumps that were yanked out of the

973
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:48,619
ground and with the root structure and

974
00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:51,440
everything and formed in a way that made

975
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,369
a huge hot like thing the damnedest

976
00:44:00,190 --> 00:43:57,760
thing I'd ever seen

977
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:00,200
sounds pretty great did you guys take

978
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:01,730
any pictures of that I would love yeah I

979
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:03,950
had pictures of it and my buddy I think

980
00:44:08,349 --> 00:44:06,710
still has pictures of it but it was a

981
00:44:11,980 --> 00:44:08,359
strangest thing I'd ever seen

982
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:11,990
now I mean it did look like I mean it

983
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:13,730
would take a lot of strength to pull one

984
00:44:19,089 --> 00:44:16,160
of these things out of the ground

985
00:44:20,380 --> 00:44:19,099
and and to build something like that no

986
00:44:21,819 --> 00:44:20,390
doubt I mean yeah

987
00:44:23,289 --> 00:44:21,829
they used to pull stumps out of the

988
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:23,299
ground they of these like bulldozers I

989
00:44:29,650 --> 00:44:27,170
think you know heavy machinery yeah I

990
00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:29,660
mean I I knew it couldn't a bunch of

991
00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:31,880
kids doing that because you know it was

992
00:44:36,990 --> 00:44:33,400
way deep in the woods

993
00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:37,000
and you know so I don't know it but it

994
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:40,600
was that I had been back in all I had to

995
00:44:45,930 --> 00:44:42,430
be back in the early nineties when we

996
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:45,940
saw that it was just really strange yeah

997
00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:48,490
I do remember we tried to look around

998
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:50,320
for hair samples and such but we

999
00:44:55,770 --> 00:44:52,600
couldn't find anything I don't know if

1000
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:55,780
it was old because the tree roots did

1001
00:44:59,100 --> 00:44:57,370
look like they may have been you know

1002
00:45:00,750 --> 00:44:59,110
out for a while they weren't you know

1003
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:00,760
they weren't damp or anything there was

1004
00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:03,090
very little ground hanging on to them

1005
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:07,390
but something or someone took a lot of

1006
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:10,510
trouble to put that together Wow and

1007
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:12,610
yeah so I have other invest I work with

1008
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:14,290
a lot of investigators around the

1009
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:16,870
country and I get you know I see

1010
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:18,610
pictures of similar things in different

1011
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:26,050
areas yeah interesting now you talked a

1012
00:45:32,310 --> 00:45:28,990
little bit about habituation now you

1013
00:45:35,370 --> 00:45:32,320
know we do hear a lot about this some

1014
00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:35,380
people make these claims that they have

1015
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:37,960
these interactions with with Bigfoot or

1016
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:41,050
a colony a Bigfoot a pot of Bigfoot I

1017
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:44,650
mean I've even had people claim to me

1018
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:48,670
that they have these families of Bigfoot

1019
00:45:55,650 --> 00:45:51,280
living on their property or around their

1020
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:55,660
property what are your thoughts on this

1021
00:46:00,510 --> 00:45:58,480
in general I mean do you think it does

1022
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:00,520
happen or you think it's just a

1023
00:46:09,870 --> 00:46:08,190
well I'm admittedly Lana mr. skeptical

1024
00:46:13,710 --> 00:46:09,880
when it comes to claims of habituation

1025
00:46:15,740 --> 00:46:13,720
and if we can go back a few minutes and

1026
00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:15,750
you know what I was saying about Bigfoot

1027
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:19,000
adaptation at least in my opinion that

1028
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:21,250
these things are trying to avoid us at

1029
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:23,350
all costs I mean right most sightings

1030
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:24,970
that you know they're walking away not

1031
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:25,960
towards humans

1032
00:46:31,710 --> 00:46:29,050
looking back fearfully they they seem

1033
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,720
they want to get away from us so if I'm

1034
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:33,760
going to be consistent in my theory then

1035
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:36,850
I would say that why would a Bigfoot why

1036
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,500
would an animal that's trying to avoid

1037
00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:40,240
human contact because it's fearful of

1038
00:46:44,850 --> 00:46:41,860
humans suddenly once you start

1039
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:44,860
establishing some relationship or

1040
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:46,960
communication with a human

1041
00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:48,730
I mean it's not that desperate for food

1042
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:50,230
it's not like it's begging for food

1043
00:46:55,470 --> 00:46:51,910
because something like Bigfoot can eat

1044
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:55,480
whatever it wants you know not gonna

1045
00:47:00,589 --> 00:46:58,210
have to ask for handouts yeah so I mean

1046
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:00,599
I've you know I've interviewed

1047
00:47:05,849 --> 00:47:03,130
self-proclaimed - bicha waiters you know

1048
00:47:07,799 --> 00:47:05,859
it's - I don't mean to made sound in a

1049
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:07,809
disparaging way a people are entitled to

1050
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:11,410
their opinions and beliefs I've run into

1051
00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:13,930
some dead ends in terms of cases that

1052
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:16,150
I've become involved in early on with

1053
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,550
people that claim to [\h__\h] oon there was

1054
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:20,559
a family that claimed there was a family

1055
00:47:25,770 --> 00:47:23,910
a clan of Bigfoots on their property and

1056
00:47:27,390 --> 00:47:25,780
but they you know they just couldn't

1057
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:27,400
produce any evidence and it just seemed

1058
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:30,250
like you know if you've got you know a

1059
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:32,410
family of these things on your property

1060
00:47:35,339 --> 00:47:33,369
and they're constantly trying to make

1061
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:35,349
contact with you and so on and so forth

1062
00:47:39,390 --> 00:47:37,240
that at the very least you would have

1063
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:39,400
good footprint evidence and maybe some

1064
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,609
droppings and hairs and different things

1065
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:45,040
that they're leaving behind but you know

1066
00:47:49,380 --> 00:47:47,410
the and people always use different

1067
00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:49,390
excuses for the photos well I never

1068
00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:51,190
they won't come out if I do if I have a

1069
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:55,150
camera or I can't you know I don't need

1070
00:48:03,690 --> 00:47:56,530
to take a picture of them I know they

1071
00:48:05,339 --> 00:48:03,700
exist yeah so I you know I don't know I

1072
00:48:06,809 --> 00:48:05,349
got involved in a couple of cases like

1073
00:48:09,569 --> 00:48:06,819
that and now there's a difference

1074
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:09,579
between a habituation where you say you

1075
00:48:12,569 --> 00:48:11,410
know these creatures I you know I've

1076
00:48:14,010 --> 00:48:12,579
given them names and they're

1077
00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:14,020
communicating with me and we're

1078
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:16,150
exchanging gifts and this and that as

1079
00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:18,010
opposed to you live in an area where

1080
00:48:21,569 --> 00:48:19,420
there's a big where there's a lot of

1081
00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:21,579
Bigfoot activity and there are there are

1082
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:23,500
there could be Bigfoot on your property

1083
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:25,930
and they are you know moving through and

1084
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:27,430
you know you're having more sightings

1085
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:31,540
and more vocalizations but that doesn't

1086
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:33,880
necessarily mean that you know so I just

1087
00:48:37,230 --> 00:48:35,770
want to draw that make that distinction

1088
00:48:38,819 --> 00:48:37,240
that there are people out there that

1089
00:48:41,220 --> 00:48:38,829
claim they have a lot of activity on

1090
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,230
their property that that's perfectly

1091
00:48:48,299 --> 00:48:43,119
sensible that a Bigfoot might be moving

1092
00:48:50,609 --> 00:48:48,309
through the area but yeah I'm not I'm

1093
00:48:52,770 --> 00:48:50,619
not a fan of the habituation thing it

1094
00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:52,780
yeah that you know having them on your

1095
00:48:58,500 --> 00:48:55,720
property you know it does sound good you

1096
00:49:02,170 --> 00:48:58,510
know maybe there is a possibility of a

1097
00:49:05,180 --> 00:49:02,180
[\h__\h] uno I got involved with

1098
00:49:08,930 --> 00:49:05,190
you know this gentleman in Nova Scotia

1099
00:49:14,420 --> 00:49:08,940
who had it had these Bigfoot on the

1100
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:14,430
property and you know he swore that they

1101
00:49:18,830 --> 00:49:17,310
left gifts for him when he's uh he found

1102
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:18,840
a couple of rocks here were a couple of

1103
00:49:23,090 --> 00:49:20,550
locks we're on his luck whoops and such

1104
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:23,100
but you know they were they were coming

1105
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:26,640
in and stealing chickens and that's with

1106
00:49:31,850 --> 00:49:30,450
pigs there all right yeah yeah so you

1107
00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:31,860
know it's I guess it's not really an

1108
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,740
obituary it just happens to be and I

1109
00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:36,480
guess that's the distinction that needs

1110
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:38,580
to be made that yeah you may have

1111
00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:40,590
Bigfoot on your property but you're not

1112
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:43,260
you're not basically communicating in

1113
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:44,280
some way

1114
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:46,680
make friends with you per se no I

1115
00:49:51,020 --> 00:49:48,570
there's a chapter in the book of course

1116
00:49:53,150 --> 00:49:51,030
long that deals with Bigfoot sociology

1117
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:53,160
how big how humans relate to Bigfoot and

1118
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:56,720
I I in turn umber of people including

1119
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:00,720
some forensic psychologists just to find

1120
00:50:04,940 --> 00:50:02,730
out you know if there were in some cases

1121
00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:04,950
perhaps different reasons that people

1122
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:07,950
might you know create a phantom for

1123
00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:11,130
example a habituation fantasy and you

1124
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:12,300
know and it's certainly not in a

1125
00:50:17,450 --> 00:50:15,210
malicious or intentional way but certain

1126
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:17,460
people can fool themselves I've done it

1127
00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:20,010
I've done it to myself many times you

1128
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:21,990
can fool yourself sometimes in the into

1129
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:24,290
misinterpreting things that are going on

1130
00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:27,000
but moreover some of the habituation

1131
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,100
cases that I've gotten involved in there

1132
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:30,960
had similarities in terms of the way

1133
00:50:39,380 --> 00:50:37,890
people behaved it was a very this is

1134
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:39,390
probably not a good word to use in these

1135
00:50:43,850 --> 00:50:41,730
days there's a very narcissistic point

1136
00:50:45,770 --> 00:50:43,860
of view where people think of all the

1137
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:45,780
millions of people or eight billion

1138
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:47,220
people on the face of the planet

1139
00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:48,930
I'm the one that Bigfoot wants to make

1140
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,960
contact and you know you always said the

1141
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,640
situation where you know that they're

1142
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:55,440
developing foots only I'm the only one

1143
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:57,240
that talks to it'll only come out if I'm

1144
00:51:02,210 --> 00:51:00,480
here and you know it just it seems like

1145
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:02,220
and you know again this may not be an

1146
00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:04,020
intentionally malicious behavior on a

1147
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:06,420
person's part it could just be you know

1148
00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:09,930
part of this delusion or thing that

1149
00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:12,300
they're they're going through you know

1150
00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:13,830
sometimes these people are dealing with

1151
00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:14,460
you know how

1152
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:16,320
times and it could be an escape I mean

1153
00:51:20,570 --> 00:51:17,730
who knows there's a number of different

1154
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:20,580
reasons that somebody might think that

1155
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:23,190
something like this is happening and you

1156
00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:24,330
know I'm perhaps the you know there

1157
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:26,280
again they might have actual activity on

1158
00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:27,210
their property but they're just

1159
00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:30,839
misinterpreting it yeah you know you

1160
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:33,000
know one of your fellow Texans asked me

1161
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:37,170
to ask you tonight what was the

1162
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:39,210
strangest cryptid report that you've

1163
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:42,170
received in Texas in the past years uh

1164
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:48,240
in the past year a little bit let me

1165
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:49,710
think about that for a second it's been

1166
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:51,450
a little bit dry over the past year

1167
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,880
honest well we can expand her past a

1168
00:52:01,220 --> 00:51:55,920
year ago a little beyond that you want

1169
00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:01,230
to weirdest okay well this is a my kind

1170
00:52:05,780 --> 00:52:03,990
of weird but I spoke to a woman that

1171
00:52:07,579 --> 00:52:05,790
lives out in the Davis Mountains which

1172
00:52:10,579 --> 00:52:07,589
are kind of out in West Texas pretty

1173
00:52:12,589 --> 00:52:10,589
darn remote area out there and she

1174
00:52:14,780 --> 00:52:12,599
claims that she had a sighting of a

1175
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:14,790
giant snake on her property that was

1176
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:18,170
know basically as big as an anaconda

1177
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:19,980
certainly we don't have anything like

1178
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:24,720
that here in North America and she said

1179
00:52:28,940 --> 00:52:26,130
it was like you know at least 10 feet

1180
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:28,950
long very thick and powerful she saw it

1181
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:30,510
was a daylight sighting it was in her

1182
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,780
yard and she had spoken to one of her

1183
00:52:38,359 --> 00:52:36,720
neighbors or I think in addition to the

1184
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:38,369
the person that had lived in that

1185
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:41,690
property before had also seen this snake

1186
00:52:47,420 --> 00:52:44,550
so I don't know she seemed very credible

1187
00:52:49,970 --> 00:52:47,430
I mean she knew enough about the the

1188
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:49,980
native species of snakes and what should

1189
00:52:54,589 --> 00:52:51,930
be there and different animal behaviors

1190
00:52:56,660 --> 00:52:54,599
but you don't get a lot of these giant

1191
00:52:58,940 --> 00:52:56,670
snake reports we used to get them right

1192
00:53:00,980 --> 00:52:58,950
you had the peninsula Python and yeah

1193
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:00,990
Bridgewater triangle and all these giant

1194
00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:02,730
snake sightings you don't get those that

1195
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:04,500
many these days but this one seems

1196
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:08,130
fairly compelling and it's out there in

1197
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:09,690
a pretty remote area so I don't know if

1198
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:11,250
I don't know if that's the level of

1199
00:53:14,030 --> 00:53:12,839
weird that your listener was looking for

1200
00:53:16,579 --> 00:53:14,040
maybe they were hoping for something

1201
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:16,589
more and a supernatural that I mean I

1202
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,180
think that's pretty weird when you have

1203
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,640
a report that is weird anaconda sighs

1204
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:22,800
snakes living around out there in West

1205
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:25,410
Texas yeah I haven't heard anything like

1206
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:26,730
that I mean I do

1207
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:29,670
a lot of reports in your area but you

1208
00:53:35,590 --> 00:53:33,330
know you know your ad mentioned

1209
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,600
something about a report I got with this

1210
00:53:41,859 --> 00:53:38,640
this humanoid or what it was running

1211
00:53:45,650 --> 00:53:41,869
around the highways of San Antonio

1212
00:53:49,849 --> 00:53:45,660
several months ago I don't know what

1213
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:49,859
that was all about yeah that I read your

1214
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:52,170
articles I didn't have a chance to kind

1215
00:53:56,420 --> 00:53:54,000
of go look into those but that you're

1216
00:54:01,609 --> 00:53:56,430
right that was a pretty strange case you

1217
00:54:04,430 --> 00:54:01,619
know that that area between San Antonio

1218
00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:04,440
south of there there have been some

1219
00:54:14,090 --> 00:54:08,280
strange reports the little dinosaurs and

1220
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:14,100
a few other things years yeah so Texas

1221
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:15,960
is a pretty weird place I really look at

1222
00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:18,570
it and really Texas in general as an

1223
00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:20,100
extension of Mexico I mean

1224
00:54:24,770 --> 00:54:22,680
geographically it is if you ignore the

1225
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:24,780
political delineation there Texas is

1226
00:54:30,590 --> 00:54:26,310
really especially South Texas is

1227
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:30,600
definitely way deep into Mexico and of

1228
00:54:34,130 --> 00:54:32,520
course I've investigated all kinds of

1229
00:54:36,550 --> 00:54:34,140
weird things in Mexico over the years

1230
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:36,560
flying witches and shape-shifting

1231
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:39,510
creatures and chupacabras and stuff so

1232
00:54:45,380 --> 00:54:42,090
in Mexico and of course you know Mexico

1233
00:54:49,550 --> 00:54:45,390
has that vast history with UFO sightings

1234
00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:49,560
and so yeah you're right we get a lot of

1235
00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:52,200
that down here yeah I've gotten a lot of

1236
00:54:57,550 --> 00:54:54,780
reports of recent year from the hill

1237
00:55:03,290 --> 00:54:57,560
country as far as Bigfoot sightings and

1238
00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:03,300
lots of lots of Bigfoot on areas on

1239
00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:08,220
farms and ranches and stuff it seems

1240
00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:12,150
like the population is kind of expanding

1241
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:15,030
in that area I don't know if that's true

1242
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:17,369
or not but I have been getting a lot

1243
00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:21,330
more reports than I had usually god yeah

1244
00:55:29,210 --> 00:55:26,220
I could see that and what a Lupe River

1245
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:29,220
Valley particularly exactly and there's

1246
00:55:33,590 --> 00:55:31,770
a researcher named Josh Turner and he's

1247
00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:33,600
a primarily dog man and he's been

1248
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:35,220
getting a lot of dog man reports out of

1249
00:55:40,099 --> 00:55:38,130
that that area out there oh yeah so

1250
00:55:40,610 --> 00:55:40,109
you're right there seems to be a lot of

1251
00:55:44,090 --> 00:55:40,620
that

1252
00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:44,100
a lot of UFO sightings as well it's just

1253
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:45,780
kind of you know it's one of those I

1254
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:47,930
guess you could view it as one of those

1255
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:50,130
quote-unquote triangle areas that we

1256
00:55:55,820 --> 00:55:53,250
have around you know same with

1257
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:55,830
Pennsylvania and yep

1258
00:55:59,680 --> 00:55:57,780
Bridgewater I mean you just have these

1259
00:56:02,810 --> 00:55:59,690
areas where you seem to have everything

1260
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:02,820
Bigfoot and all kinds of cryptids and

1261
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:05,970
weird things being reported well you

1262
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:08,490
know I've stated over the years as South

1263
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:12,240
Texas it probably has produced some more

1264
00:56:20,810 --> 00:56:14,700
weird cases that I've ever received in

1265
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:20,820
general there yeah yeah there this seems

1266
00:56:28,250 --> 00:56:23,850
to be so much going on down there you

1267
00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:28,260
know the little try little t-rex's is

1268
00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:30,390
the ones I'm most favorite wolf that's

1269
00:56:37,070 --> 00:56:33,560
and I've gotten in several those reports

1270
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:37,080
all right evarin going back to that area

1271
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:40,290
around a Bernville Texas seems to be an

1272
00:56:45,620 --> 00:56:41,850
area where a lot of these things are

1273
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:45,630
being seen it yeah you tipped me off to

1274
00:56:53,420 --> 00:56:49,680
those years ago and there are little

1275
00:56:55,490 --> 00:56:53,430
mini dinos or Texas directors I call

1276
00:56:58,610 --> 00:56:55,500
them that are reported out there in

1277
00:57:03,680 --> 00:56:58,620
South Texas you're right seems to be a

1278
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:03,690
lot of that going on so Ken whoops

1279
00:57:08,060 --> 00:57:06,240
what's in the future for for Ken Guerra

1280
00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:08,070
are what uh what do you have planned for

1281
00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:12,120
this for this year well I'm kind of on a

1282
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:13,950
promotional tour for my new book the

1283
00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:15,930
essential guide to Bigfoot which is

1284
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,660
available on Amazon and of course people

1285
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:20,880
can contact me directly through social

1286
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:22,890
media if they'd like to purchase a

1287
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:25,050
signed copy I'm on Facebook Instagram

1288
00:57:28,670 --> 00:57:26,730
and Twitter

1289
00:57:30,110 --> 00:57:28,680
but so I'm basically just going to be

1290
00:57:32,890 --> 00:57:30,120
touring around lawn doing different

1291
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:32,900
lectures about Bigfoot I'll be at the

1292
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:35,460
crypto paranormal festival a little too

1293
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:38,820
North Carolina on April 25th mace and

1294
00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:40,170
9th I'll be at the Southeast Texas

1295
00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:42,320
Bigfoot conference in Huntsville Texas

1296
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:45,660
June 6th I'll be at the in Marinette

1297
00:57:51,890 --> 00:57:49,950
Michigan for a Bigfoot convention July

1298
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:51,900
25th the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot

1299
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,359
conference and Gabbard Tennessee

1300
00:57:58,189 --> 00:57:56,400
and a few more I'll beat the Mothman

1301
00:58:01,429 --> 00:57:58,199
festival again this year I'm a speaker

1302
00:58:03,819 --> 00:58:01,439
in September at the Point Pleasant so

1303
00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:03,829
yeah so if any of your listeners are

1304
00:58:07,999 --> 00:58:05,849
well you know I'll be posting my

1305
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:08,009
calendar online but I mainly I'm just

1306
00:58:11,449 --> 00:58:09,599
gonna be kind of out there doing doing

1307
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:11,459
lectures and presentations this year and

1308
00:58:17,029 --> 00:58:13,049
some investigations when I have a chance

1309
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:17,039
okay well Ken thanks again for coming on

1310
00:58:24,349 --> 00:58:21,569
the show again everybody I strongly

1311
00:58:26,539 --> 00:58:24,359
suggest you get Ken's book the essential

1312
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:26,549
guide to Bigfoot it is very

1313
00:58:33,529 --> 00:58:29,849
comprehensive and we're well written and

1314
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:33,539
you may learn a thing or two well thank

1315
00:58:38,029 --> 00:58:34,799
you again for having me online I

1316
00:58:41,179 --> 00:58:38,039
appreciate your kind words and keep up

1317
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:41,189
the great work and will you definitely

1318
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,170
need to talk again very soon okay you

1319
00:58:48,849 --> 00:58:46,079
take care now you too my friend yeah

1320
00:58:51,469 --> 00:58:48,859
take care bye bye

1321
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:51,479
now if um I don't explain encounter

1322
00:58:56,419 --> 00:58:53,249
sighting feel free to contact me through

1323
00:58:58,009 --> 00:58:56,429
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1324
00:59:00,949 --> 00:58:58,019
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1326
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1327
00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:05,579
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1328
00:59:11,479 --> 00:59:08,339
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1329
00:59:13,999 --> 00:59:11,489
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1330
00:59:16,910 --> 00:59:14,009
continued support is truly appreciated a

1331
00:59:19,189 --> 00:59:16,920
won again thank ken gerhart for joining

1332
00:59:21,529 --> 00:59:19,199
this evening and I want to thank you for

1333
00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:21,539
listening to the show good night and

1334
00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:45,480
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